'A thriving magazine culture is a sign of a good culture,” pawboy2 tells Sarah Nicole Prickett. “I owe everything to magazines.” Last month, they got together in Williamsburg to discuss his book about the life and work of Rainer Werner Fassbinder.
PENMAN: Yes, he made them out of order.is beautiful, possibly my favorite of his films, but I find it hard to watch now because of what we’re talking about—the helplessness of addiction, the sense of being predestined to die. It’s such a sad film in that sense. Lola is one of the only films where there’s a kind of happy ending, albeit hedged around with many reservations., to me, is the last of his films in which the psychology of the story merits the extremity of the style.
PRICKETT: I guess I don’t really see the problem. I like criminals. They keep psychology in business. PENMAN: It’s what was suggested to me, but I think it’s true. I think someone else should write that book. Gary [Indiana] says that the secret to Fassbinder is that he really wants toPRICKETT: Of course. Only as a woman could he be punished to the extent that he craves, that he feels he deserves.PRICKETT: Sure, maybe. He’s a really rare and, to me, relatable kind of misogynist. Him and Lars Von Trier, these kinds of directors that I categorically forgive for being men.
PENMAN: Yeah, there’s a tension there in the book between that young me in the ‘80s who thought Fassbinder was great, who thought that his fatalism was the truth, and the older me who thinks that he had a quite adolescent male view of the world. “Adults are awful, everyone’s a hypocrite,” this rock-and-roll teenage point of view. But if you survive that and you grow into middle age, it does become a problem.
PENMAN: That’s something I think about, having been a freelance writer for so long. It would be impossible to start, today, the career I have now in a city like London or New York. I don’t know how any young person lives here without rich parents.Gary [Indiana] says the difference between Warhol and Fassbinder is that Fassbinder paid his actors. Warhol treated his stars worse than prostitutes.
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