In her first interview since being promoted from deputy director for science and society, AlondraNelson46 speaks about a wide range of issues, including the recently enacted 2022 federal spending bill, President Biden’s ambitious science agenda, and more.
examining the factors contributing to the persistent underrepresentation of Black people in U.S. physics. As a scholar of the relationship between race, science, and society, how do you explain the hostile environment that Black people have faced over many decades? In our listening sessions, we’ve observed that there’s a great passion for science and technology among many segments of society. But as your reporting noted, there are also fundamental barriers to their participation.
Q: Some people think that the only way to really get academic departments to change their behavior is to make it painful for them if they don’t, in other words, to have the government withhold funding to those institutions that haven’t shown the ability to increase diversity in science and engineering. What’s the right balance between the carrot and the stick? I do think there has been, over the last few years, an awakening and recognition that the status quo is not working and won’t work.
Q: Many Chinese American scientists say the Department of Justice’s China Initiative, begun under former President Donald Trump, has engaged in racial profiling and cast doubt on their loyalty to the United States. What do you think the Biden administration needs to do to restore their trust? At OSTP, we’ve tried to be a good partner and engage in close communications with Asian American, Native Hawaiian Pacific Islander stakeholders, and the scientific communities.
Q: Francis Collins is now serving as science adviser and co-chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology . Those are duties previously assigned to the OSTP director. How are you and he divvying up the work? Francis has four buckets of responsibility. The first is as the president’s science adviser. The second is helping to lead the search for the next NIH director. The third is serving, along with Frances Arnold and Maria Zuber, as co-chair of PCAST.
Q: Scientists had hoped this would be a banner year for federal spending on science. But despite the president’s request for double-digit increases at many agencies and billions more for research in his social welfare blueprint, the final appropriations bill fell far short of those levels. What happened, and what’s the lesson for scientists?I’ll answer that in two ways.
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