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Westworld co-creator Lisa Joy unpacks the true architects of season four’s reality. A conversation with ralter

Photo: John Johnson/HBO Spoilers follow for the fourth season of Westworld, including season finale “Que Será, Será,” which aired August 14.

We wanted, in meeting our new Evan Rachel Wood, for Christina to feel like she’s in the most vital and contemporary place, for her character to be as real, relevant, and human as possible. I’m a Jersey girl, so I grew up next to New York, which seemed to me to be the beating heart of the universe that was just out of reach. And there is something about New York; it is both ever-changing and always stays the same, like the same messy bodega on the corner that has been there for the last 20 years.

I remember reading The Waves, by Virginia Woolf, which they say she wrote right as she was having a complete breakdown. It’s a fragmentation of all the different sides of her personality talking to each other, and she wrote it very naturally, it just kind of flowed out. I do think we have different voices within our heads. Season one was all about, Whose voice is that? Oh, it’s my inner voice. One of the things I’m tackling is how the inner voice can sometimes be more like a chorus.

I started this series when I was pregnant with my first child, and there is this boiling desire when you’re younger, when you’re in your 20s, to live forever and make your mark. You’re really thinking about things in a self-centric way. That’s totally normal, but it does change over time. Or for me, at least. As I’ve evolved, I’ve grown more zen about that, and look at the beauty in this world and appreciate that it is bigger than I am.

What I realized was, I was a 22-year-old English major typing in numbers and assumptions: the pebble underneath all the mattresses, or the person at the end of The Wizard of Oz. Every algorithm starts with an assumption or an input, and the person who’s making that assumption, that input, has a heavy impact on the output. And so I question, in general, the idea of pure AI or pure algorithmic functionality, because the fingerprints of its creators are all over.

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