The Ms. Q&A: Jenny Odell on ‘Saving Time’ and Escaping the Clock

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The Ms. Q&A: Jenny Odell on ‘Saving Time’ and Escaping the Clock
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'What are the things that become possible when you start thinking about not ‘my time’ and ‘your time,’ but ‘our time’?' the_jennitaur on her new book, 'Saving Time: Discovering a Life Beyond the Clock':

, which I cite a lot—she described the end of the writing process as like when a coin is like going down a funnel, getting faster and faster and faster. But if you have an industrial view of time and work, you feel like you should be steadily hitting these targets, throughout the years. But it’s just not like that—it could be very, very slow at the beginning, and it’s really, really fast at the end.

I really believe in the importance of the relationship between people and entities as being the thing of substance, as opposed to either of those individual entities. I don’t really think that there’s ‘me,’ there’s just ‘me, in the Bay Area,’ and then there’s ‘me, not in the Bay Area,’ and like this was written by ‘me, in the Bay Area’—that’s one thing.: I really love the part where you talk about the experience of picking a spot, and just paying attention to that spot over time.

I guess even more hyper-locally, I start the book by talking about the moss that invaded my apartment. There is unsurprisingly moss right outside the apartment, and after the huge rains that we had all of that moss was happy, it was everywhere. Even within a day—if there’s more rain, it will become more green… So I guess that’s the most local thing possible.: But those are the ones that are the most noticeable, because it’s a spot that you truly have to confront every single day.

But I think I saw it because some other habit in terms of how I was seeing things broke, and it made space for something else to enter my attention. I don’t know, I was really freaked out by that. It’s big, and old. And it’s been there the whole time. In ‘The Third Reconstruction,’ Peniel E. Joseph Outlines the U.S. Struggle for Racial Justice in the 21st Century

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