‘It’s Time for All Hands on Deck’: Jerry Brown on Why The U.S. Needs China — And China Needs Us — to Fight the Climate Crisis
Do the U.S. and other nations need to center climate in their geopolitics more than is the case right now? The Paris climate agreement was an instance of that.We do need a policy of planetary realism. Planetary is the scope that’s the nature of the problem; realism because it’s time to confront the truth of the problem.
How does the U.S.-China relationship over the past couple of years affect trying to do this? Are they more open or less open from what you can tell so far? How do you think about this question of bringing this climate work to places like China, India, South American countries, where they say you’re going to try to strangle the baby in the crib? Economic growth is this focus and you’re going to impose these changes.
That means 80 percent is some kind of government intervention: appliance standards, building standards, a low-carbon fuel standard. Cap and trade, these are government regulations. You must have X amount of non-carbon fuel, and if you don’t, you must pay. So we have government setting the price and government setting the rules. But individual companies making the innovation.
No, Chad Mayes got himself on board. I would like to say that I thought it up and I got him. Fact is, the Republicans consultants came down to my office. They said, ‘We see the Republicans losing votes among young people, and we need to do something on the environment, and we think cap and trade would be such a move. Could we talk about it?’
When you were up on stage just now, you talked about the imperative of beating Trump, but you talked about not focusing so much on him, the person, the salesman, the entertainer, and more about the people who supported him or elected him.
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